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Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.23 14:37:00 - [1] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 23/04/2006 14:37:39 Originally by: Justin Cody don't fly the caracal right now... I'm sorry to say that I think its the worst caldari cruiser right now. yes even worse than the osprey for combat because the caracal actuyally makes a pretense that it can fight. CAracal's drop severely fast and while they do dish out good damage, a pilot in another ship who has some idea of how to fly will beat it down. I'm speaking from experience. I fly caracals and I fly many other ships as well. It used to be good when I could sling torps from it back in the day and it was even ok before the missile nerf. But now its useless against frigs without assualt launchers and useless gainst cruisers without heavies...and doesn't have the resources to fit T2 launchers properly to use precision ml's. CAracal needs a slight boost imo..maybe to cap. I suggest that if you want to deal with fast targets you fly either an assault frigate or an arbitrator or vexor since their drones get good bonuses and the ship bonuses are interesting as well. Check em out. not all caldari ships are poo btw: but for solo work the blackbird is probably the most annoying and cheapest pirate ship out there ;) fly safe... I really hope you're joking--the Caracal is without a doubt the most or at least close to the most powerful cruiser in EVE, and can shred most other cruisers/AFs with relative ease. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.23 14:58:00 - [2] Originally by: Chaddy What kind of ship would you suggest me to go for? I cant quite afford a Battlecruiser yet(Will take me quite some months, i believe). Caracal, of course. Heavy launchers + large shield extenders = win. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.23 15:15:00 - [3] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 23/04/2006 15:15:15 Originally by: Chaddy Originally by: Cade Morrigan What are you using the ship for, missions or low sec ratting or what? I would like to do both. I have no problems with .5. But .4 is killing me. The one's in .5 dosent drop anything good(In my experience). 2x large shield extender (preferably T2) + heavy missiles + hardeners --> win in everything down to 0.1 easy. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.24 00:36:00 - [4] Originally by: Cade Morrigan Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Justin Cody CAracal needs a slight boost imo..maybe to cap. Its primary weapon doesn't even use cap, why would it get a cap boost? Their cap seems just fine... Actually, if you run an afterburner, sensor booster and a shield hardener, your cap sits at about 50-60%. Thirty seconds of medium shield booster spells empty cap. It's not a "problem" but the caracal sure doesn't have any cap to spare. Then passive tank it, like its supposed to be... [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.24 00:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Cade Morrigan My fittings skills are pretty good: > [ 100 \| 38] XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay > [ 100 \| 38] XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay > [ 100 \| 38] XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay > [ 100 \| 38] XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay > [ 100 \| 38] XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay > [ 50 \| 25] 10MN Afterburner I > [ 1 \| 10] Sensor Booster I > [ 0 \| 0] Empty Slot > [ 0 \| 0] Empty Slot > [ 0 \| 0] Empty Slot > [ 1 \| 35] Ballistic Control System I > [ 1 \| 35] Ballistic Control System I This very strong gank setup only has 110 grid left, not enough for even a single Large Shield Extender. You don't passive tank when you fit for serious gank at extended range. You also don't beat Illegal Activity and Tech Secrets if you don't set up for serious gank at 100km. Sure the Caracal can passive tank well enough but it loses a lot of firepower in the process. My passive tank can fit one BCS on it--the extra BCS doesn't do much more, and it completely gimps the setup. Its not like the enemies tank very well. I have 5 heavy IIs, a BCS I, and two large shield extender IIs--its much more effective. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.24 13:04:00 - [6] Originally by: Chaddy Edited by: Chaddy on 24/04/2006 12:54:50 I tried to work something out today. The Large Shield Extender takes up waaaayy too much powergrid. I might just need some skills, to boost my powergrid. Some people says that i need 2/3x Heavy launchers, and 2/3x Assualt launchers. What should i go for? Use RCUs in lows and the heavy launchers should fit with the two extenders. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.24 16:22:00 - [7] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 24/04/2006 16:25:10 I laugh at the people who say "OMG the caracal can't break an AF's tank" or "OMG caracal is useless except in fleet setup." I will continue to offer 50 million ISK to anyone who can beat my caracal in a smaller ship without jamming/dampening/etc me. Of course, you pay me the same 50 million if you lose. If you want to take me up on my offer, EVEmail me ingame. If you want to fight me in a cruiser, I will do that also. However, the "bet" I'm willing to take on will depend on the ship, as there are setups I know of that can in fact defeat me. However, these setups are very rarely used. From experience I can say that the Caracal is without a doubt the best solo PvP cruiser in EVE. It tanks very well while being agile and dealing monstrous damage with high alpha strike, while being versatile enough to kill both frigates and cruisers. It is also completely immune to NOS. I beat Orc A's duramaller yesterday in my Caracal. I love my Caracal [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.24 16:25:00 - [8] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 24/04/2006 16:26:07 Originally by: Karch Quote: Come find me in our caracal, I will beat it 100% of the time in an equal sized or smaller ship. Think a Caracal can take down a Thorax, even with the nerfed Blasters they use now? I think not. And that is assuming you have all heavy missiles, not these 3x Heavy/2x Assault setups that people are talking about. Caracal in Fleet = ftw Caracal in Solo = you will die to a LOT Have you checked the FIX killboard? I have never lost to a Thorax, ever, and I never fly a Caracal anything but solo. I have killed many, many thoraxes with relative ease [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.24 17:28:00 - [9] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 24/04/2006 17:28:15 Originally by: Epsilon 1 Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Karch Quote: Come find me in our caracal, I will beat it 100% of the time in an equal sized or smaller ship. Think a Caracal can take down a Thorax, even with the nerfed Blasters they use now? I think not. And that is assuming you have all heavy missiles, not these 3x Heavy/2x Assault setups that people are talking about. Caracal in Fleet = ftw Caracal in Solo = you will die to a LOT Have you checked the FIX killboard? I have never lost to a Thorax, ever, and I never fly a Caracal anything but solo. I have killed many, many thoraxes with relative ease Just calculate how much dmg you'll be doing to an AF orbiting at 600m/s with a sig radius of 30m and lowest armor resist = 60%. Precisions are getting sorted 1) Precision heavies aren't being nerfed, I believe that's precision torps that are. At least from what I've heard. If they get nerfed, its not like it'll be much harder--they're not going to make them useless. It'll just take 5 volleys instead of 3... 2) AFs don't have 30m sig radius, IIRC. 3) Guided Missile Precision. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran

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